The NHLPA presented three
offers to NHL. Pierre LeBrun had a few
quotes from Gary Bettman, says none of them (NHLPA offers) "even began to
approach 50-50." Not encouraged, Bettman calls it a "step backward.” And finally, "We were done in an hour
today because there was really nothing there."
From what I have read, the
NHL short review of the proposals did not go over well with the PA. Going back to the details:
1. Fehr insists
that depending on revenue growth, NHLPA's first proposal does go down to 50
percent eventually.
2. Fehr says No 2
proposal gets owners down to 50 percent with "only five percent
growth.”
3. Fehr on No 3
proposal - players to go 50/50 as long as owners promise to honor all contracts
that were signed by players.
Fehr says NHL
rejected all 3 NHLPA proposals that dealt solely with players' share of HRR and
core economics, didn't deal with other systemic issues. Says NHL only was only
willing to work off its Tuesday offer.
I assumed that was what the NHL wanted all along.
Per NHL.com,
“In the third proposal, Fehr claimed the Union estimates the players would be
losing approximately 13 percent of their salaries under the immediate 50-50
split the League proposed Tuesday, so the proposal the Union made was to
segregate that 13 percent, have the owners pay it in full, and put a 50-50
split on the remaining 87 percent of contracts already signed and on future
contracts.”
Player Agent, Allan Walsh
feels that the players were presented with a $1.6B reduction in salaries and
significantly less contract rights. Per NHL Player, Paul Bissonette, “Players will take a 50/50 split. The players will agree to
that if owners honor all existing contracts. It's simple.”
The NHL spoke
about the latest proposal follow-ups.
Commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement. "It is not a 50-50
deal. It is, most likely a 56- to 57-percent deal in Year One and never gets to
50 percent during the proposed five-year term of the agreement.
With more
analysis, Bob McKenzie explains, every NHL team would be eligible to receive
revenue sharing but top 10 money making clubs would be responsible for
contributing 50 per cent of $200M pool.
The numbers that would be adjusted would be based on actual
hockey-related revenue calculations following the season. In addition, because NHL players buried in
minors (Redden etc) would count against cap, re-entry waivers would no longer
exist.
McKenzie adds,
One of most interesting aspects of NHL proposal is aimed at punishing clubs
more than players, with regard to existing back-diving deals. An important note on back-diving contracts
(BDC), If player traded, then later in deal retires, original club on hook for
cap hit.
Per Ryan
Kennedy, “Talked to an agent about NHL's 2-year entry-level deal logic. He said
it will limit big 2nd deals for more players: less time for big stats. Two recent examples would be Evander Kane
and Erik Karlsson, both of whom made big offensive jumps in their third NHL
seasons.”
Per Aaron Ward
on NHLPA offers,big picture-
1) Set dollar
values in Years 1-2-3 for player compensation. Years 4-5,value set at whatever
is higher (50% of HRR or year 3 number) and 50/50 in effect.
2) Players hang
on to current compensation BUT only take 24.7% of all growth. At NHL estimated growth of 5%,over 5 years
you get to 50/50.
3) Day 1 starts
at 50/50, remove 12.28% only to SET cap,benefits,escrow (estimated 87%) number
only.
Per Pierre
LeBrun, NHL offer calls for 2012-13 salary cap of $59.9 million but teams can
go over up to $70.2 million in Year 1 as part of transition.
Arthur Staple
adds, “If the divide now centers around paying the full value of existing
contracts, it's even more outrageous how some owners acted this summer. And I wonder how Zach Parise and Ryan Suter
feel looking at their new owner on the neg. comte fighting to not pay them what
he promised.”
Darren Dreger
mentioned, “NHL is expected to cancel games thru Nov 1 only. Still hoping to
have resolution and reg. season back on track Nov 2.” Katie Strang confirmed it a little later on Friday,” League makes it official: announces cancellation
of regular-season games through November 1.”
Like several
fans, I am so tired of this lockout. I
am fed up with the owners driving salaries up and up while they try and poach
free agents from each other. I see the
ridiculous long range contracts whose only purpose is to front load and loop
hole the very rules they agreed to set in place. On the NHLPA side, I know the players took a hit on the last CBA,
and they have to be smirking at the Owners position after a record breaking 3B earnings from last season in this horrific economic climate. Per The Globe and Mail, "
The last NHL
proposal seemed pretty fair and if some more hard work is applied to
negotiations, the league and NHLPA could resume play. I for one, refuse to believe that Bettman would allow the
flagship, Winter Classic to not happen.
Plus what is really going to happen if the players do not return? I guess they would just replace a few guys
like Sidney Crosby, EvgeniMalkin, Steven Stamkos, Zach Parise, John Tavares,
Pekke Rinne and Jonathan Quick.
Make it happen. Two lockouts in eight years is a joke for a
sport that struggles to maintain its identity in the United States against
leagues like the NFL, MLB, NBA and Nascar.
The excitement
of the AHL aside, the fans want hockey and we want it now.
Isles Notes:
Eric Hornick
points out some advantages for the Islanders in the possible new proposed CBA.
1. Isles would
be eligible for revenue sharing.
2. Teams would
not be eligible to stash players in minors and avoid salary cap hit.
3. Teams must
pay the bottom of the salary cap range and not use bonuses, which were often
not attained, to reach that point.
So that means a
team, “no longer have an incentive to keep underachieving young players with
large bonuses on the NHL roster. It will be more practical to send
players either to the AHL or (if age-appropriate) back to juniors. no longer have an incentive to keep
underachieving young players with large bonuses on the NHL roster. It
will be more practical to send players either to the AHL or (if age-appropriate)
back to juniors.”
Among the
players on in the Islanders system that it could affect are Niederreiter,
Reinhart, Nelson, Halmo, Nilsson, Strome and de Haan.
Rick DiPietro
continues to lose while playing in a second tier German league. Per Eric Hornick on 10/17, “Rick DiPietro's
German tm lost in OT tonight 5-4-Winnipeg native Kevin Saurette completed a hat
trick by beating DP on an OT pen shot.
Kevin Saurette, who had 3 goals vs DiPietro today scored 2 goals in 27
career AHL games--never played in NHL--5th ssn in Germany.”
Sound Tigers
Notes:
UPDATE: Sound Tigers WIN! @KevinPoulin60 unofficially
with 34 saves, BST now 3-0 after earning a 3-2 win over the Penguins. de Haan left the game with an injury to his left arm.
BST plat the WBS at Mohegan Sun Arena.
BST plat the WBS at Mohegan Sun Arena.
Tonight's BST
forward lines - Niederreiter-Cizikas-McDonald, Ullstrom-Sundstrom-Persson,
DeFazio-Nelson-Kabanov, Halmo-Watkins-Riley.
Likely
defensive pairings - Donovan-Hamonic, de Haan-Wishart, Ness-Landry.
Sound Tigers
scratches - McIver, Cantin, Backman, MacKay, Gallant and Clark. WBS will dress
seven defensemen and 11 forwards tonight.
Sound Tigers
starters - Niederreiter-Cizikas-McDonald, de Haan-Wishart. Poulin in goal.
NHL Notes:
Adam Proteau
makes a good point with, “Think of the outcry that greeted any NHLer who tried
to renege on a contract he signed to get a better deal. That's what owners are
doing.”
Some teams, NYR
& CBJ have moved forward with laying down ice in their home arenas per
Murphy Siegel.
Per CapGeek,
Top teams with two-way AHL salaries exceeding $105,000?
BOS $765k, 2.
TOR $740k, 3. NYR $700k, 4. CGY $632.5k, 5. SJ $575k.
The "Wade
Redden rule" would put a small dent in some team's cap payrolls on two-way
contracts exceeding $105,000.
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